I'm wanting to install this on a raspberry pi. I've downloaded the pc.zip file and there is just a Windows exe. What's the process for installing on Linux?
I don’t have a linux OS to have tested this before, but the Renpy engine automatically builds distributions that should work on Linux.
Inside the folder you downloaded you’ll see a file named nif.sh. Try to double click it and see if it runs. If not…
You need to mark the nif.sh file as executable.
(Note: if you don’t know how to do it: This may be slightly different depending on your Linux distribution, desktop environment and language. Right-click the file, select Properties -> Permissions -> mark as executable)
Then go to the "lib" directory and open the adequate Linux directory (linux-i686 or linux-x86_64) and look for a file named nif (without any extention). Mark this file as executable too.
(Note: If you don't know which Linux directory is right for you, do the same thing for the nif file inside both of the directories)
Try double clicking again in the nif.sh file.
Did it work?
If not, try to run in through the terminal. I have found here a 10 min youtube tutorial explaining how to do it with another renpy game (it also shows and explains all of the steps above). Just try to do the same steps for this game that has a nif.sh executable.
I hope this helped.
If you still can’t make it to work, I’m afraid I can’t help more than this. Sorry.
this is great. It’s not a wank-a-thon, but rather stimulates the intellectual and emotional sectors of the brain. It’s still sensual yet not overtly sexual—it stimulates through anticipation and longing, which can be so much better than mere wank material. MrSilverLust has done a great job, and lööking forward to more.
It's a story-driven, slow-burn visual novel with meaningful choices. I understand that this is not for everyone, but it also makes it more meaningful when the player gets to the sex scenes.
That being said, all chapters have full sex scenes, unless you reject them. You should get laid regularly unless you choose not to.
MrSilverLust, I have two questions for you, the first is a suggestion for the promotion of your game, why don't you add Nothing is Forever on Google Play Store only with Censorship, and the uncensored version players download here, that it would be really good for your game, and the second question is is the game going to be on steam?
Once it’s finished, I’ll submit the game to steam for review and see if it’s accepted there. Recently I’ve read that a couple adult games have been rejected by them, so you never know.
As for the playstore… I don’t think it makes sense. It’s an adult game, all the mechanics/plot are designed with that in mind. Censoring it would be butchering everything I worked for and it would turn it into a farce of a game. I’m not interested in that.
one more question for you Mr Silver Lust, the game will soon have other languages like "French, Japanese, Italian and Portuguese" a point that would be nice for your game.
I'm currently playing the third chapter, and it's literally blowing my mind. This is game is so messed up in a good way, that seems impossible to be written by a single person, and seems an impossible thing for a game of this genre. Personally I really love when a story drive you out like this, and the sexual scenes are just an addition to what the game truly is. But, and I repeat its only my modest opinion, if these sexual scenes are present I also like to play them all without redo the entire game that as for now, it's taking me lot of hours to be completed. Like now I'm struggling to find the way to have a crush on Jen, but I don't know where I made a mistake to find her only beautiful and not being in love, and can't choose the "hope you could see yourself etc etc.." and it's really frustrating, cause I don't truly want to stop my game a redo every single choice, but I feel incomplete without that answer(can you help me, what should I do to make Mc have a crush on Jen?)
Except for this thing that is driving crazy me, myself and I, and the little thing that I'd have enjoyed a little more the sexual scenes if not all the girls were shaved ( I mean, a redhead and is not redhead down there?! It's crazy haha), the game is FLAWLESS and I really, truly, am grateful to you, MrSilverLust, for what you are doing cause you made possible to mess up the Mc, a thing that I love so much, to take almost every wrong choice and every girl despite is the "worst" thing to do in the real life.
Finally, I'd like to say that so far this is the best complicated game of this genre out there, with so many path you should give a life to explore every single variant, and that's and enormous point for you.
The “crush” part seems to be one of the more confusing parts for players. I need to find a way address that better and make it more clearer. Remember in Chapter 2 during the “weed trip” you had to pick the girl you liked more at the time? That’s your “current crush”.
Please note that doesn’t mean much. It just lets you have a cute dialogue option with your favorite girl and gain the “Sweetness” skill for free. It’s not meant to be a big choice or influence who you end up with at the end.
Oh, right, I thought that but first time playing I choose Jen, and didn't said was in love with her. Second time I tried negate every sexual interaction with other girls except for Jen and worked.
Thank you for the reply btw, and you're welcome, your game truly is amazing
I think I ran into a bug?, after the date with Lea at the park & hanging out with Jamie & Peter, when you're home you chat with Jen about how her tournament is going, then you go to sleep, the problem is that the next day I wake up to meet up with Jen at the university & the part when you show her the University, when you meet Bri & Deb, then the story goes on and on from that point, is like i'm trapped into a loop
I am aware of this bug and have fixed it in version 0.3. The funny thing is that I can’t even replicate it, it shouldn’t happen even in version 0.2.
It has only been reported only 2 or 3 times, 99.9% of the players never encounter it. And I still don’t know how they make it happen! But anyway, like I said, is fixed in the newer version. Sorry for the trouble.
i had the bug just now the think is after reloading my save before that chosing the exact same options it didnt happen again i tried to redo the bug but didnt work its like after watching jens game on the laptop i could somehow leave the table bringing me to the room(where you then go to slep and suddenly everthing repeats) instead to deb
This game has unique and very sophisticated mechanisms which allow you to shape the MC character and which determine the kinks he is into. And like in a real life you need to choose girls not only based on their beauty but also on their character and sexual preferences. Furthermore the story is not typical too, it's very realistic and interesting at the same time, the dialogues are often very mature and make you think about life and love. I really loved the 3rd chapter, it moved the game from 8th to the 2nd place in my ranking.
It's still relatively early in the story - there are only two real sex scenes (plus one fantasy blowjob and the start of an exhibitionism arc) - but the writing and mechanics are great, and I'm excited to see where it goes in the future. When I read that the you were trying to make a more "grounded, realistic" game, I was skeptical that you'd be able to pull it off because so many authors of adult games seem immature or have a less than perfect feel for interpersonal relationships. That's not much of a problem in a game that doesn't take itself completely seriously, but I could have seen it being an issue for this one. When I found myself actually enjoying the story and the depth of the characters, I was pleasantly surprised. In particular, I like that in some cases things get emotionally messy after a character indulges their kinks. Rather than having sex always be a driving force of change, it's treated as just one of many factors in the characters' evolving interpersonal relationships. It's a mirror or a lens rather than a panacea.
Mechanically, I really like the kink skill trees and their connection to dialogue options. I also really appreciate that there are appealing dialogue options for each of the personality traits - when I originally saw the skill trees, I was worried that I'd have to choose dialogue options that I didn't like in order to experience kink content that I do like; it would have made the game worse to have only been able to experience some kinks if the main character were someone that I didn't like.
The game also explained chess in a way that was interesting to me despite the fact that I'm a beginner and have never really had any interest in it, which was also an unexpected pleasant surprise to find in the random adult game that I downloaded on a whim.
Overall, very solid game, and I'm excited to see how it grows. Great job!
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed review.
It’s always interesting to learn what players have enjoyed more about the story and the game mechanics. Your thoughts and expectations upon reading the game description and the personality mechanics were also quite interesting. I’m happy that your fears were unfounded so far. Let’s see if I can keep the level this good in the next chapters.
when you are receiving a phone text, if you manually open the phone and want to reply, nothing happens, then when you leave the phone to continue the scene, nothing happens.
I had to go back a few step back (by wheel up) then click multiple time for the scene (phone text, then reply) to happen normally.
It feels like a bug.
Edit: during the hate sex scene with Emma when she is laying on her belly and we are behind her, and she looks face camera, the head is clearly weird (too big? too frontal ... i don't know)
Unfortunately, not. It's the automatic port of the engine renpy, I wouldn't know what to do to even start to improve anything. For what it's worth, on my S20 with android 11, it never crashed. So, it must have something to do with the hardware. Newer, more powerful phones handle the game better.
Of course I only have one device to test the game with, so it's very difficult for me to figure out what the minimal hardware requirements are.
I have a Honor 9(with android 9), and I didn't have these issues on the earlier update. Just redownloaded it and reinstalled it and it fixed it for a while but the crashes came back
Romantic, sex fantasy, trustwordy, exhibitionism, aftercare, loyal, sensation play, roleplay, bodywriting, sex in public, maverick, temptation are all vanilla.
Others are still normal, just geared towards BDSM.
babe this game is 18+ for a reason... i really just dont think youre old enough to play this, granted im going off like 2 comments, but i think you might have stumbled into the weird side of itch.io and are a little lost lol.
Which is to say he is a "beta sub" and he is not enjoying his reality. Because only an MRA humanoid living in a xx chromosome free environment because of insecurity issues would ever use the term "beta sub"
After him defending slavery, including saying that the game, in which a bisexual succubus helps a thinly fictionalized version of a real slavery survivor who fought back, is a "Leftist wet dream" it's safe to say that anything he is against is probably excellent. I will be sure to check it this game because of his words.
He loves games where he cheats on women but throws a shitfest if any girl does anything with anyone..... Gee I wonder why someone would feel so strongly about those? Maybe it has something to do with him playing games to escape his reality rather than ones that reflect his reality.....
I can only pick a limited amount of tags, there's plenty more of them missing, but that's the itch system. The important thing is that all kinks are optional in the game. You can choose to be dominant and go for a maledom path, submissive and go femdom, or rather more vanilla and avoid any more hardcore kinks you don't like.
I found a bug. When Deb, Carl, and Oliva are talking to each other you have a timed choice option. The "Just leave" option has a timer, but the timer doesn't count at all, and when the conversation apparently ends, the "listen in and eavesdrop" option disappears, but then you can't progress at all, it turns into a softlock (EDIT: I re-loaded and managed to get it work. Something probably open a menu/the phone/something locked the game up, but I am not sure how to exactly reproduce what I did, but I did manage to finally find a way to progress. You might want to make all the phone/menu/skills/etc. options unavailable during timer choices)
Interesting, I’m also not able to quickly reproduce the bug. But I’ll investigate it further and maybe implement your suggestion. Thanks for reporting it.
Yes, it will be eventually included in the late game, with at least 1 girl that is into that sort of thing.
These polarising/extreme kinks won't have many scenes, but I'd still like to give them some proper representation in the game, without any kink shaming. It will be a long time until we get there though.
Great writing, man you made me really dislike Emma. The fact she can piss me off to the degree I feel, I think is a show of great character writing. On a side note, you have an awful lot of typos
Emma is a fan favorite, but, at the same time, a few people seem to dislike her quite a bit. it's an interesting outcome for sure.
Sorry about the typos, when you write so much, you start to become dyslexic, especially if you aren’t a native speaker like myself. I have a proofreader going through the script and hopefully all those little mistakes will be picked up and fixed in a future patch.
I can see why she'd be popular, for me its kinda like...hrm. I dunno how to explain without spoilers.
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In the case with her, I'm super submissive. Hate fuck/angry sex IS pretty hot, and the fact she *can* take a one-time thing she wants is again, something I don't mind. But her whole "fuck you, don't ever call me again, we're through"....that's it. Okay, you went that far, so door shut, never again. That's kind of a bottom line for me, so the ending of chapter 2 really disappointed me. I do fully want to drop her in the future, unless you can do some sort of amazing redemption arc for her, but in my case that is highly unlikely. *SHE* said she didn't want to talk or speak ever again, so that's on her. There is basically two choices I wish could be made: 1) Don't do the drugs, just follow Deb's example and be like "I'm not feeling it" although I get why it was necessary for that progression into the psyche (but I mean...second-hand high is a thing? anyway, I kinda wish there was the option to decline). The second thing is to choose not to forgive/text Emma, as far as I'm concerned she really sunk that ship there with how she ended it and somehow I have to make the move. It's a sour taste in my mouth, because even if I'm submissive and into femdom, I'm not exactly okay with forcing something that isn't there, and she was pretty out of line anyway.
That's a very detailed feedback, thanks for your input.
The problem with VNs is that I can't keep adding more alternative routes to accommodate all possible players choices, otherwise, in a couple updates, we have 30 different routes and each one lasts for only 10mins. So there needs to be a common place where the plot comes to, and being at least friends with Emma is that common ground. Although I do understand your point of view, and perhaps didn't give it the deserved weight when considering the options the player could have to deal with the situation.
Of course you will be able to ignore all lewd content with her from now on, but it won't be possible to avoid being friends and caring about her in at least a friendly manner, even if you aren't in a "proper relationship". Please take that into consideration when thinking about playing future updates, in case that is a deal break for you.
The same is a bit true as well for some in game events, like the weed scene. I knew some people wouldn't be into that and would choose not to smoke if allowed, but I really wanted the high scene to not be avoidable (I didn't know about second-hand high, maybe that could have been a good alternative). To avoid making things harder and more complex for myself, sometimes compromises need to be made about what options to give to the player, especially when you're developing a game on your own on your free time.
Hey, if you can redeem her and actually sell her on being a friendly person if not friends in the future, I'll look forward to that. I'm pretty annoyed with her, but who knows, MC and her had literally weeks to deal with that anger, as the player, I've had like 5 minutes. Maybe I can let it go by the time the next update rolls around. Time will tell
I personally just left patreon, but just discovered your game. It's too high-quality/polished to just get such abysmal support. Since Patreon is out, I'll at least support you here. I have no idea if this is my type of game yet (I only just started playing, 5 minutes in) but even if its not a game I'll like, I can see the amount of work put into this. I wish you good luck. -Raven
EDIT: (Hopefully there is a nice submissive route/femdom content and not just a bait scene or something like that)
Thank you for your kind words. It’s a new game. If it is good enough, sooner or later, it will get noticed and get the support it deserves. If not, I’m still having fun developing it, that’s not nothing. I hope you like it.
Regarding a submissive route, yes, there is one that will have similar amounts of content as the dominant route.
This is a slow burn visual novel though, as of chapter 2 there’s only two scenes that fit the submissive route. In the next chapters, once all LI’s and their kinks are properly established, the amount of lewd scenes will increase. Cheers.
Thank you for the response, I don't mind slow burns. The story/setup is intriguing enough to warrant it. I like set up and all that, fap games are great, but this is what I tend to really enjoy. As far as content, time will see, I have niche tastes, I recognize that. As long as its not like some devs who tack on a footjob or do a lesbian scene and call it a day, I'll be happy with a genuine route. Here's to your good fortune
You can't get it to download, to install, or to start?
Renpy, the game engine I use to make the game, automatically ports the game to android. This usually works quite well, but the app might not work in all devices, especially in older ones. If that's the case for you, unfortunately, there's not much I can do to help. Make sure sure the apk file was completely downloaded. When you open it, make sure to allow it to be installed.
If you're already doing all of that, then I'm afraid there's not much more I can help you with. Sorry.
Fantastic work, extremely well written stuff. Spent the extra money to get the second chapter and boy was that a good decision. I have to say though, I found possibly my favourite bug of all time in it. After the conversation with Leah at the beach, some of her text conversations were misattributed to Pete instead (pictured here: https://ibb.co/sWKdWF1) To reproduce the bug, after I got the notification sound for receiving a text, I checked all my contacts to see who it was from from left to right, finishing with Pete, which is I think why the dialogue got attributed to him. Really though, I laughed so hard at it that I honestly think you should leave it in.
Okay after some further testing, it is indeed whichever contact you looked at last who gets attributed the dialogue. I used this to forge my own Jamie route, which made me tear up from laughing so hard.
I managed to recreat the bug. The problem is that, after getting the message, I give the players the opportunity to open the phone and check any contact, which as you have found out, messes up the attribution of all following messages. At that moment, you're supposed to just click on the screen to move forward and not mess around anywhere :p
But that's easy to fix, thanks for poking around and finding that out. As a reward, I'll have to make some secret easter egg path where both Pete and Jamie participate in a miss wet t-shirt contest to make those messages sort of cannon.
Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with the desert of my mind scene. is there a way around this because I get there on the screen with the mouse and direction buttons but I have a laptop without a mouse well it's the mousepad on the laptop so can I not finish or get through the game without a mouse?
You just need the mousepad to point the camera forward, and then click the forward key on the keyboard. It is a very short section. If that doesn’t work, go back to a scene before that, open the options menu, and switch off the Shaders Effects. That change will make you bypass that short scene altogether (you might want to switch on the shaders again after that for some small visual effects here and there).
ok thanks I did get it to work but I only could go straight so if I was supposed to see the stuff on the walls I couldn't I'll try turning off the shaders thank you so much for answering quickly enjoying the game so far close to becoming a patron keep up the great work Now I just gotta figure out what kink Emma's clues lead to. Figured it out and decided to become a patron. keep up the hard work
Thank you for the kind words. I hope you also enjoy chapter 2! And no, you aren't supposed to see anything special on the walls. That small segment is just to add to the immersion of what the main character is going through at the moment.
I realize that it could be argued that a couple of the hints could be placed in a different place, which makes things a bit more confusing than it had to be.
Renpy creates that file automatically, but it's only needed to lunch the game in a 32-bit windows version. You can just delete it if you have a 64-bit windows and your antivirus will be happy.
If you're referring to the hotfix file itself, then I must confess I'm surprised and don't know what's going on. I've tried to recreate your problem and my windows doesn't have any issue. This hotfix only fixes the credits screen. If you're afraid of using it, I'd suggest not to download it. The game is fully playable without it.
Can you please tell me if it is indeed the update that was flagged or just the nif-32.exe?
This is a bit frustrating for a developer because there's not much I can do, it's just how renpy works. I'll check if newer versions fixed this. Or I'll probably just have to drop support for the 32-bit version.
The art style is good but some of the text is incorrectly used and missing some letters. I still really enjoyed it though and am looking forward to the next update. When do you think that will be?
I've proofread the text a few times, but I swear a guy becomes dyslexic by reading the same thing time after time.
I'm trying to get the next chapter out by the end of September. This is the first time I'm doing such predictions, so I might end up being a bit off. But so far I think I'm on target for that.
Thanks for the support and encouragement! I'm quite happy with the good reception this game had. The reviews have been generally positive, and there has been a good amount of downloads, followers and donations (both on itch.io and on patreon).
The feedback I've been getting across all channels where the game was published has also been really valuable for me. This is only my first game, it's natural that there are areas that I can still get better at.
But all in all I'm very happy how things have turned out so far. I'll do my best to make chapter 2 just as engaging. Cheers.
I tried now with Avira and indeed also reported a Trojan in the nif-32 file. Renpy creates 2 exe files, one for 32-bit windows architecture (called nif-32 in my game) and one for 64-bit (called nif.exe in my game).
For whatever reason, nif-32 is being flagged by avira but not by Windows defender, avg, malwarefox, avast, malwarebytes or bitdefender. It’s renpy’s job to compile the software and I can’t or know how to do anything about it.
If you have a 64-bit windows installed, you can let the antivirus delete the nif-32 file because you don’t need it for anything. You just need the nif.exe executer. If you have a 32-bit windows architecture and need to run nif-32 to play the game, you’re welcome to try to scan the files with other anti-virus like I did to reassure you that’s a false positive.
I’ll try to investigate this issue better and see if there’s some way to prevent it for next release. Perhaps by compiling with a different renpy version.
I've now tested with Windows defender, avg, malwarefox, avast, malwarebytes and bitdefender and none picked up any problems. I think you've picked up a false positive, renpy itself is known to sometimes trigger that, even though it's safe to use. I'll keep my eyes open for problems in the future though.
I found this game really interesting. I really loved the skill element of the game, to be able to really make your own character evolve during the story. The art style isn't to bad ether, I really like the comic book style.
The characters of the game is not to bad. My favorite girl so far is probably Emma, but I do hope for more characters to come.
There's probably just one thing I can think of that I didn't like, that being all the time skips. It's way to many and they're way to long.
But overall I really enjoy this game. You've earned yourself a follow from me and I'm really looking forward to upcoming chapters.
I'm glad you enjoyed the game! And thanks for the feedback.
About the time skips. I wanted to make the story feel relatively grounded and realistic, even if there's still a lot of "porn logic" in game. That means that relationships take time to develop. But showing every single day of that time period would get boring really quickly in my opinion. So, to solve that problem, I had to either make the story happen in a much smaller time period, or make time jumps and let the relationships evolve a bit "off screen".
I chose to follow Alfred Hitchcock's quote "drama is life with the dull bits cut out" and just showed the important moments for the story and skipped the rest, while informing the players of how much time have passed since the last scene to keep everyone on the same page.
Perhaps this wasn't the most elegant solution. As the story progresses and all relationships are well developed, this sort of "trick" won't be necessary anymore. So, you can expect less time jumps in the future.
I finished chapter one now which already has a lot of content (~3.5 hours).
Despite what others might say, I really enjoyed the art. In the sea of Daz3D games one can play today, it is quite refreshing to see someone aiming for a unique and recognizable look.
Paired with the general visual presentation (with the occasional "comic panels" or very stylized scenes) I think the graphics work pretty well. Also there are quite a lot of short animation bits, that help make the characters feel alive.
But more important than that, the story and themes of the game are done pretty well. I really liked the whole psychology theme with some scenes that really made me connect to the protagonist (referring to the brilliant inner monologue at the end of the yoga session for example).
On top of that comes a lot of user interaction compared to other adult visual novels combined with a relatively complex point/skill system that has me intrigued.
Kudos also for the attention to detail, for example in the very elaborate chess matches.
The only critique I want to express is the pacing that is very slow at points. In a porn game I expect a certain amount of sexual scenes every now and then. This game however has some rather long passages of strictly non-sexual scenes where the game feels more like an all-ages drama rather than an R18 game. As a general direction for the game this is not a problem but a rather welcome change, but the pacing still needs to be varied enough to keep the players engaged.
To summarize my short review: Keep up the good work and keep trying out different stuff. Having some new approaches to the genre is always welcome. I'm looking forward to future updates of the game!
Pacing is indeed one of the hardest things to get right. On one hand, I want the players to care about the characters so that when the sex scenes come they are more meaningful. On the other hand, this is a +18 game and players expect a certain dose of sex scenes and not just character development.
This first chapter had a lot of characters and themes to introduce and perhaps I misjudged the ratio of non-sexual/sexual scenes a bit. I believe this will improve as the game progresses and the characters become more well established. Then, there will be a higher number of sex scenes and kinks per chapter for the players to explore.
I have some brutally honest feedback this is meant to help not undermine you, i don't like the V.N. at all and here is why ! is love the use of high end CGI art work but then to add a mix of much lower end graphics with thick black lines even in the intro was the first point of o no please NO !!! and i think its because i work with graphics so must for books and merchandise and i know bring 2D and high end 3D is a art form that i very hard and i would say pick one or the other, i am sorry if this came across as hateful or negative but when i have got through close to 400 V.N.'s read in a year, things like trigger me so bad i just have to say something that will hopefully help long term.
I DON'T normally this but if you and to i am willing and give of my own time and talents to help to make this into a A++ V.N. just ask your not sure will it work or not, dose it look eye pleasing.
Thanks for the feedback! Your complains seem to be all about the art style.
The art style started as a consequence of having a shitty pc to render, not knowing how to draw and not having money to commission drawing to a proper artist. How to solve that problem? I used those shaders on a 3d software and now I can actually make renders on my potato laptop and make a cool game! I wouldn’t be able to make a game if I stick with the beautiful 3d cgi you like and are used to.
My choice was never between the tradition art styles and my art style. It was always between my art style and no game at all. It was a compromise. That being said, the style really grew on me and I really like it right now. However, I obviously understand if that's not to everyone's liking.
I’ve had feedback elsewhere from other players saying that they really liked the game and the artstyle. But others, like you, also said they didn't like the art style at all! I guess it is a matter of preferences, but I completely understand that this won’t be everybody’s cup of tea.
That’s why there are all these screeshots in the page: everyone can judge at a glance if they will enjoy the art style or if it’s better to move on to the next game.
I understand that some people love it and others not and i totally get it rendering on on a 1050 is nothing like on a 3080all i am saying wouldn't it be better to have a larger amount of people love it in 1 style than others and not so many say its OK but here is a idea why not make a pole survey as to what the readers think it better because at the end of the day they are the ones that support the development of your V.N.
and thank you for for taking it the way it was meant and also taking your time to respond back,
all that i can say is i wish you the best and do what you think is right.
If I made that poll, I probably would vote myself in a style envolving beautifully drawn 2d characters. Let's say that option would won. Then what? I can't afford an artist. So, should I ask people to support my future game in advance, without me having ever made any game before and expect that anyone would want to fund the project?
I don't think that's how things work. I have to prove myself first for anyone wanting to support the development of any of my games. That's why I'm destributing this game for free and let people judge if it is worthy of any support.
I'm doing the game I can with the resources I have. If it goes well and I can upgrade my equipment or hire an artist, then my next game might be even better! But, right now, with my current hardware, rendering 3d photorealistic pics would take 10x more time. That is simply not an option if I want to make updates every 2-3 months.
And besides all that, I really like the art style myself. It might have started as a compromise, but it sure grew on me. I'm already finding more people that also enjoy it, even though some others don't. Not all games need to have the same visuals.
Maybe in a not so distant future you might be able to play another of my games made in a style you enjoy. I hope so. Until there, I appreciate the feedback. If I ever have the chance to, I'll definitely explore other art styles, like you suggested, in future projects. Cheers.
if i am honest it looks like you have the skills to it work without hiring someone you can see it in the art work, and to answer the 1st question do it in a pole and if people like it like that then keep it the way it is if not change it just enough so people can see a change and keep them coming back for more, i tell you what would work and I've seen it with your art style is maybe keep people in a 3d high end and the background as a lower end or the other way around, and how knows I'm not writing it off just because i don't like it your already bookmarked so i can track the changes if they happen if not just keep doing what ever makes you happy and lest you express your self in your art, but the main thing i would say is be open to change
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I'd love to see a full walkthrough for this game, all choices, all possible outcomes
Really enjoying the game. Got stuck in the rest room after the chess tournament.
I can't get beyond this room, nothing seems to be interactive. I can't move only look around.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
Just found your previous message to turn off the shading effect to skip this scene. All good now.
How does the update system work? as soon as a version comes out the previous one is free?
note: this game is very promising, congratulations to the creator
Thank you for the kind words.
At the latest, chapter 3 will be available for free when chapter 4 is released. But I might even make it free a bit before that.
When that happens I'll make a devlog post. So, anyone following the game should be immediately notified. Cheers.
I'm wanting to install this on a raspberry pi. I've downloaded the pc.zip file and there is just a Windows exe. What's the process for installing on Linux?
Okay, this is a first.
I don’t have a linux OS to have tested this before, but the Renpy engine automatically builds distributions that should work on Linux.
Inside the folder you downloaded you’ll see a file named nif.sh. Try to double click it and see if it runs. If not…
You need to mark the nif.sh file as executable.
(Note: if you don’t know how to do it: This may be slightly different depending on your Linux distribution, desktop environment and language. Right-click the file, select Properties -> Permissions -> mark as executable)
Then go to the "lib" directory and open the adequate Linux directory (linux-i686 or linux-x86_64) and look for a file named nif (without any extention). Mark this file as executable too.
(Note: If you don't know which Linux directory is right for you, do the same thing for the nif file inside both of the directories)
Try double clicking again in the nif.sh file.
Did it work?
If not, try to run in through the terminal. I have found here a 10 min youtube tutorial explaining how to do it with another renpy game (it also shows and explains all of the steps above). Just try to do the same steps for this game that has a nif.sh executable.
I hope this helped.
If you still can’t make it to work, I’m afraid I can’t help more than this. Sorry.
Hi,
Thanks for the super quick reply. I've got it working but had to do a few extra bits as a Raspberry Pi isn't a standard Linux.
I downloaded the lastest Ren'Py SDK (https://www.renpy.org/latest.html) and unzipped it.
I downloaded the Raspberry Pi support file (from the same link). Copied it into the SDK folder and unzipped it.
Then I copied the unzipped NIF folder into the SDK folder.
When running the renpy.sh file NIF now appears as a project and can be launched.
All seems to be working now
Good to know!
Usually it’s the Linux people that teach me how things work. I’m glad that this time was not an exception :p
this is great. It’s not a wank-a-thon, but rather stimulates the intellectual and emotional sectors of the brain. It’s still sensual yet not overtly sexual—it stimulates through anticipation and longing, which can be so much better than mere wank material. MrSilverLust has done a great job, and lööking forward to more.
It's a story-driven, slow-burn visual novel with meaningful choices. I understand that this is not for everyone, but it also makes it more meaningful when the player gets to the sex scenes.
That being said, all chapters have full sex scenes, unless you reject them. You should get laid regularly unless you choose not to.
MrSilverLust, I have two questions for you, the first is a suggestion for the promotion of your game, why don't you add Nothing is Forever on Google Play Store only with Censorship, and the uncensored version players download here, that it would be really good for your game, and the second question is is the game going to be on steam?
Once it’s finished, I’ll submit the game to steam for review and see if it’s accepted there. Recently I’ve read that a couple adult games have been rejected by them, so you never know.
As for the playstore… I don’t think it makes sense. It’s an adult game, all the mechanics/plot are designed with that in mind. Censoring it would be butchering everything I worked for and it would turn it into a farce of a game. I’m not interested in that.
okay understand, thank you for reply
one more question for you Mr Silver Lust, the game will soon have other languages like "French, Japanese, Italian and Portuguese" a point that would be nice for your game.
I agree. I wouldn’t be interested in censoring either. This is a very good VN, and besides some text editing, this story and art is 9 out of 10!
I'm currently playing the third chapter, and it's literally blowing my mind. This is game is so messed up in a good way, that seems impossible to be written by a single person, and seems an impossible thing for a game of this genre. Personally I really love when a story drive you out like this, and the sexual scenes are just an addition to what the game truly is. But, and I repeat its only my modest opinion, if these sexual scenes are present I also like to play them all without redo the entire game that as for now, it's taking me lot of hours to be completed. Like now I'm struggling to find the way to have a crush on Jen, but I don't know where I made a mistake to find her only beautiful and not being in love, and can't choose the "hope you could see yourself etc etc.." and it's really frustrating, cause I don't truly want to stop my game a redo every single choice, but I feel incomplete without that answer(can you help me, what should I do to make Mc have a crush on Jen?)
Except for this thing that is driving crazy me, myself and I, and the little thing that I'd have enjoyed a little more the sexual scenes if not all the girls were shaved ( I mean, a redhead and is not redhead down there?! It's crazy haha), the game is FLAWLESS and I really, truly, am grateful to you, MrSilverLust, for what you are doing cause you made possible to mess up the Mc, a thing that I love so much, to take almost every wrong choice and every girl despite is the "worst" thing to do in the real life.
Finally, I'd like to say that so far this is the best complicated game of this genre out there, with so many path you should give a life to explore every single variant, and that's and enormous point for you.
Again, really, really, thanks.
Hi!
The “crush” part seems to be one of the more confusing parts for players. I need to find a way address that better and make it more clearer. Remember in Chapter 2 during the “weed trip” you had to pick the girl you liked more at the time? That’s your “current crush”.
Please note that doesn’t mean much. It just lets you have a cute dialogue option with your favorite girl and gain the “Sweetness” skill for free. It’s not meant to be a big choice or influence who you end up with at the end.
Thank you for the feedback and kind words.
Oh, right, I thought that but first time playing I choose Jen, and didn't said was in love with her. Second time I tried negate every sexual interaction with other girls except for Jen and worked.
Thank you for the reply btw, and you're welcome, your game truly is amazing
I think I ran into a bug?, after the date with Lea at the park & hanging out with Jamie & Peter, when you're home you chat with Jen about how her tournament is going, then you go to sleep, the problem is that the next day I wake up to meet up with Jen at the university & the part when you show her the University, when you meet Bri & Deb, then the story goes on and on from that point, is like i'm trapped into a loop
I am aware of this bug and have fixed it in version 0.3. The funny thing is that I can’t even replicate it, it shouldn’t happen even in version 0.2.
It has only been reported only 2 or 3 times, 99.9% of the players never encounter it. And I still don’t know how they make it happen! But anyway, like I said, is fixed in the newer version. Sorry for the trouble.
i had the bug just now the think is after reloading my save before that chosing the exact same options it didnt happen again i tried to redo the bug but didnt work its like after watching jens game on the laptop i could somehow leave the table bringing me to the room(where you then go to slep and suddenly everthing repeats) instead to deb
This game has unique and very sophisticated mechanisms which allow you to shape the MC character and which determine the kinks he is into. And like in a real life you need to choose girls not only based on their beauty but also on their character and sexual preferences.
Furthermore the story is not typical too, it's very realistic and interesting at the same time, the dialogues are often very mature and make you think about life and love.
I really loved the 3rd chapter, it moved the game from 8th to the 2nd place in my ranking.
[Written after playing version 0.2.3]
It's still relatively early in the story - there are only two real sex scenes (plus one fantasy blowjob and the start of an exhibitionism arc) - but the writing and mechanics are great, and I'm excited to see where it goes in the future. When I read that the you were trying to make a more "grounded, realistic" game, I was skeptical that you'd be able to pull it off because so many authors of adult games seem immature or have a less than perfect feel for interpersonal relationships. That's not much of a problem in a game that doesn't take itself completely seriously, but I could have seen it being an issue for this one. When I found myself actually enjoying the story and the depth of the characters, I was pleasantly surprised. In particular, I like that in some cases things get emotionally messy after a character indulges their kinks. Rather than having sex always be a driving force of change, it's treated as just one of many factors in the characters' evolving interpersonal relationships. It's a mirror or a lens rather than a panacea.
Mechanically, I really like the kink skill trees and their connection to dialogue options. I also really appreciate that there are appealing dialogue options for each of the personality traits - when I originally saw the skill trees, I was worried that I'd have to choose dialogue options that I didn't like in order to experience kink content that I do like; it would have made the game worse to have only been able to experience some kinks if the main character were someone that I didn't like.
The game also explained chess in a way that was interesting to me despite the fact that I'm a beginner and have never really had any interest in it, which was also an unexpected pleasant surprise to find in the random adult game that I downloaded on a whim.
Overall, very solid game, and I'm excited to see how it grows. Great job!
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed review.
It’s always interesting to learn what players have enjoyed more about the story and the game mechanics. Your thoughts and expectations upon reading the game description and the personality mechanics were also quite interesting. I’m happy that your fears were unfounded so far. Let’s see if I can keep the level this good in the next chapters.
Cheers!
when you are receiving a phone text, if you manually open the phone and want to reply, nothing happens, then when you leave the phone to continue the scene, nothing happens.
I had to go back a few step back (by wheel up) then click multiple time for the scene (phone text, then reply) to happen normally.
It feels like a bug.
Edit: during the hate sex scene with Emma when she is laying on her belly and we are behind her, and she looks face camera, the head is clearly weird (too big? too frontal ... i don't know)
Lots of random crashes on android, any fix for this?
Unfortunately, not. It's the automatic port of the engine renpy, I wouldn't know what to do to even start to improve anything. For what it's worth, on my S20 with android 11, it never crashed. So, it must have something to do with the hardware. Newer, more powerful phones handle the game better.
Of course I only have one device to test the game with, so it's very difficult for me to figure out what the minimal hardware requirements are.
I have a Honor 9(with android 9), and I didn't have these issues on the earlier update. Just redownloaded it and reinstalled it and it fixed it for a while but the crashes came back
The Skills system looks very interesting, hopefully there will be enough content to do them justice!
Really great gameplay choices and an interesting story so far! Looking forward to more!
Then make the dominant choices. This game has both paths for you to choose.
The first chapter even has a "hatefuck" where you dominate one of the girls, if you go for that route.
Here is the skill tree present in the game. See if you have any kink you like:
https://ibb.co/bPTJpzh
Romantic, sex fantasy, trustwordy, exhibitionism, aftercare, loyal, sensation play, roleplay, bodywriting, sex in public, maverick, temptation are all vanilla.
Others are still normal, just geared towards BDSM.
babe this game is 18+ for a reason... i really just dont think youre old enough to play this, granted im going off like 2 comments, but i think you might have stumbled into the weird side of itch.io and are a little lost lol.
Not every game is made for you. You are not entitled to anything.
Which is to say he is a "beta sub" and he is not enjoying his reality. Because only an MRA humanoid living in a xx chromosome free environment because of insecurity issues would ever use the term "beta sub"
After him defending slavery, including saying that the game, in which a bisexual succubus helps a thinly fictionalized version of a real slavery survivor who fought back, is a "Leftist wet dream" it's safe to say that anything he is against is probably excellent. I will be sure to check it this game because of his words.
He loves games where he cheats on women but throws a shitfest if any girl does anything with anyone..... Gee I wonder why someone would feel so strongly about those? Maybe it has something to do with him playing games to escape his reality rather than ones that reflect his reality.....
game is missing femdom tag
I can only pick a limited amount of tags, there's plenty more of them missing, but that's the itch system. The important thing is that all kinks are optional in the game. You can choose to be dominant and go for a maledom path, submissive and go femdom, or rather more vanilla and avoid any more hardcore kinks you don't like.
I found a bug. When Deb, Carl, and Oliva are talking to each other you have a timed choice option. The "Just leave" option has a timer, but the timer doesn't count at all, and when the conversation apparently ends, the "listen in and eavesdrop" option disappears, but then you can't progress at all, it turns into a softlock (EDIT: I re-loaded and managed to get it work. Something probably open a menu/the phone/something locked the game up, but I am not sure how to exactly reproduce what I did, but I did manage to finally find a way to progress. You might want to make all the phone/menu/skills/etc. options unavailable during timer choices)
Interesting, I’m also not able to quickly reproduce the bug. But I’ll investigate it further and maybe implement your suggestion. Thanks for reporting it.
Just because I'm curious, is watersports ever going to be a thing?
Yes, it will be eventually included in the late game, with at least 1 girl that is into that sort of thing.
These polarising/extreme kinks won't have many scenes, but I'd still like to give them some proper representation in the game, without any kink shaming. It will be a long time until we get there though.
Great writing, man you made me really dislike Emma. The fact she can piss me off to the degree I feel, I think is a show of great character writing. On a side note, you have an awful lot of typos
Emma is a fan favorite, but, at the same time, a few people seem to dislike her quite a bit. it's an interesting outcome for sure.
Sorry about the typos, when you write so much, you start to become dyslexic, especially if you aren’t a native speaker like myself. I have a proofreader going through the script and hopefully all those little mistakes will be picked up and fixed in a future patch.
I can see why she'd be popular, for me its kinda like...hrm. I dunno how to explain without spoilers.
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In the case with her, I'm super submissive. Hate fuck/angry sex IS pretty hot, and the fact she *can* take a one-time thing she wants is again, something I don't mind. But her whole "fuck you, don't ever call me again, we're through"....that's it. Okay, you went that far, so door shut, never again. That's kind of a bottom line for me, so the ending of chapter 2 really disappointed me. I do fully want to drop her in the future, unless you can do some sort of amazing redemption arc for her, but in my case that is highly unlikely. *SHE* said she didn't want to talk or speak ever again, so that's on her. There is basically two choices I wish could be made: 1) Don't do the drugs, just follow Deb's example and be like "I'm not feeling it" although I get why it was necessary for that progression into the psyche (but I mean...second-hand high is a thing? anyway, I kinda wish there was the option to decline). The second thing is to choose not to forgive/text Emma, as far as I'm concerned she really sunk that ship there with how she ended it and somehow I have to make the move. It's a sour taste in my mouth, because even if I'm submissive and into femdom, I'm not exactly okay with forcing something that isn't there, and she was pretty out of line anyway.
That's a very detailed feedback, thanks for your input.
The problem with VNs is that I can't keep adding more alternative routes to accommodate all possible players choices, otherwise, in a couple updates, we have 30 different routes and each one lasts for only 10mins. So there needs to be a common place where the plot comes to, and being at least friends with Emma is that common ground. Although I do understand your point of view, and perhaps didn't give it the deserved weight when considering the options the player could have to deal with the situation.
Of course you will be able to ignore all lewd content with her from now on, but it won't be possible to avoid being friends and caring about her in at least a friendly manner, even if you aren't in a "proper relationship". Please take that into consideration when thinking about playing future updates, in case that is a deal break for you.
The same is a bit true as well for some in game events, like the weed scene. I knew some people wouldn't be into that and would choose not to smoke if allowed, but I really wanted the high scene to not be avoidable (I didn't know about second-hand high, maybe that could have been a good alternative). To avoid making things harder and more complex for myself, sometimes compromises need to be made about what options to give to the player, especially when you're developing a game on your own on your free time.
Hey, if you can redeem her and actually sell her on being a friendly person if not friends in the future, I'll look forward to that. I'm pretty annoyed with her, but who knows, MC and her had literally weeks to deal with that anger, as the player, I've had like 5 minutes. Maybe I can let it go by the time the next update rolls around. Time will tell
I personally just left patreon, but just discovered your game. It's too high-quality/polished to just get such abysmal support. Since Patreon is out, I'll at least support you here. I have no idea if this is my type of game yet (I only just started playing, 5 minutes in) but even if its not a game I'll like, I can see the amount of work put into this. I wish you good luck.
-Raven
EDIT: (Hopefully there is a nice submissive route/femdom content and not just a bait scene or something like that)
Thank you for your kind words. It’s a new game. If it is good enough, sooner or later, it will get noticed and get the support it deserves. If not, I’m still having fun developing it, that’s not nothing. I hope you like it.
Regarding a submissive route, yes, there is one that will have similar amounts of content as the dominant route.
This is a slow burn visual novel though, as of chapter 2 there’s only two scenes that fit the submissive route. In the next chapters, once all LI’s and their kinks are properly established, the amount of lewd scenes will increase. Cheers.
Thank you for the response, I don't mind slow burns. The story/setup is intriguing enough to warrant it. I like set up and all that, fap games are great, but this is what I tend to really enjoy. As far as content, time will see, I have niche tastes, I recognize that. As long as its not like some devs who tack on a footjob or do a lesbian scene and call it a day, I'll be happy with a genuine route. Here's to your good fortune
I can not get it on android
You can't get it to download, to install, or to start?
Renpy, the game engine I use to make the game, automatically ports the game to android. This usually works quite well, but the app might not work in all devices, especially in older ones. If that's the case for you, unfortunately, there's not much I can do to help. Make sure sure the apk file was completely downloaded. When you open it, make sure to allow it to be installed.
If you're already doing all of that, then I'm afraid there's not much more I can help you with. Sorry.
Does this game have Urination scenes?
If not, is anyone able to reccomend some?
Fetish Locator has some I believe.
thanks!
Fantastic work, extremely well written stuff. Spent the extra money to get the second chapter and boy was that a good decision. I have to say though, I found possibly my favourite bug of all time in it. After the conversation with Leah at the beach, some of her text conversations were misattributed to Pete instead (pictured here: https://ibb.co/sWKdWF1)
To reproduce the bug, after I got the notification sound for receiving a text, I checked all my contacts to see who it was from from left to right, finishing with Pete, which is I think why the dialogue got attributed to him. Really though, I laughed so hard at it that I honestly think you should leave it in.
Okay after some further testing, it is indeed whichever contact you looked at last who gets attributed the dialogue. I used this to forge my own Jamie route, which made me tear up from laughing so hard.
I managed to recreat the bug. The problem is that, after getting the message, I give the players the opportunity to open the phone and check any contact, which as you have found out, messes up the attribution of all following messages. At that moment, you're supposed to just click on the screen to move forward and not mess around anywhere :p
But that's easy to fix, thanks for poking around and finding that out. As a reward, I'll have to make some secret easter egg path where both Pete and Jamie participate in a miss wet t-shirt contest to make those messages sort of cannon.
Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with the desert of my mind scene. is there a way around this because I get there on the screen with the mouse and direction buttons but I have a laptop without a mouse well it's the mousepad on the laptop so can I not finish or get through the game without a mouse?
Hi!
You just need the mousepad to point the camera forward, and then click the forward key on the keyboard. It is a very short section. If that doesn’t work, go back to a scene before that, open the options menu, and switch off the Shaders Effects. That change will make you bypass that short scene altogether (you might want to switch on the shaders again after that for some small visual effects here and there).
ok thanks I did get it to work but I only could go straight so if I was supposed to see the stuff on the walls I couldn't I'll try turning off the shaders thank you so much for answering quickly enjoying the game so far close to becoming a patron keep up the great work Now I just gotta figure out what kink Emma's clues lead to. Figured it out and decided to become a patron. keep up the hard work
Thank you for the kind words. I hope you also enjoy chapter 2! And no, you aren't supposed to see anything special on the walls. That small segment is just to add to the immersion of what the main character is going through at the moment.
I can't find the right order for Deb's kinks. Can anyone help me?
It’s supposed to be like this:
https://ibb.co/ThtLGMm
I realize that it could be argued that a couple of the hints could be placed in a different place, which makes things a bit more confusing than it had to be.
Well written story I really enjoyed it so far and I like the art style in this VN!
Mmhm, this is one of the best visual novels I have played, for now.
tried to download the update and windows found a trojan. can you explain this??
The hotfix itself, or the whole game was flagged?
I've seen that some antivirus don't like the nif-32.exe file and flag it. This is a common false positive. Check, for example, here:
https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=61332
Renpy creates that file automatically, but it's only needed to lunch the game in a 32-bit windows version. You can just delete it if you have a 64-bit windows and your antivirus will be happy.
If you're referring to the hotfix file itself, then I must confess I'm surprised and don't know what's going on. I've tried to recreate your problem and my windows doesn't have any issue. This hotfix only fixes the credits screen. If you're afraid of using it, I'd suggest not to download it. The game is fully playable without it.
Can you please tell me if it is indeed the update that was flagged or just the nif-32.exe?
This is a bit frustrating for a developer because there's not much I can do, it's just how renpy works. I'll check if newer versions fixed this. Or I'll probably just have to drop support for the 32-bit version.
It's too short to evaluate so far, but yes it has a promising potential. Lea and Jen are the only attractive girls so far.
I LOVE the gameplay aspect of this! Highly highly recommend. Cannot wait to see what you put out later.
Love this, you earned my money my friend cant wait for next update
The art style is good but some of the text is incorrectly used and missing some letters. I still really enjoyed it though and am looking forward to the next update. When do you think that will be?
I've proofread the text a few times, but I swear a guy becomes dyslexic by reading the same thing time after time.
I'm trying to get the next chapter out by the end of September. This is the first time I'm doing such predictions, so I might end up being a bit off. But so far I think I'm on target for that.
Thanks for the support and encouragement! I'm quite happy with the good reception this game had. The reviews have been generally positive, and there has been a good amount of downloads, followers and donations (both on itch.io and on patreon).
The feedback I've been getting across all channels where the game was published has also been really valuable for me. This is only my first game, it's natural that there are areas that I can still get better at.
But all in all I'm very happy how things have turned out so far. I'll do my best to make chapter 2 just as engaging. Cheers.
I tried now with Avira and indeed also reported a Trojan in the nif-32 file. Renpy creates 2 exe files, one for 32-bit windows architecture (called nif-32 in my game) and one for 64-bit (called nif.exe in my game).
For whatever reason, nif-32 is being flagged by avira but not by Windows defender, avg, malwarefox, avast, malwarebytes or bitdefender. It’s renpy’s job to compile the software and I can’t or know how to do anything about it.
If you have a 64-bit windows installed, you can let the antivirus delete the nif-32 file because you don’t need it for anything. You just need the nif.exe executer. If you have a 32-bit windows architecture and need to run nif-32 to play the game, you’re welcome to try to scan the files with other anti-virus like I did to reassure you that’s a false positive.
I’ll try to investigate this issue better and see if there’s some way to prevent it for next release. Perhaps by compiling with a different renpy version.
I do however have to mention that I got a trojan warning from this game
Hmm, strange. I just double checked everything with Malwarebytes and Avast antivirus and it didn't detect anything.
Thank you both for the heads up, I'll investigate this further.
I've now tested with Windows defender, avg, malwarefox, avast, malwarebytes and bitdefender and none picked up any problems. I think you've picked up a false positive, renpy itself is known to sometimes trigger that, even though it's safe to use. I'll keep my eyes open for problems in the future though.
Using paid version of "TotalAV". But yeah, I never suspected that it was a virus. Just thought I'd mention that it warned me about it.
I found this game really interesting. I really loved the skill element of the game, to be able to really make your own character evolve during the story. The art style isn't to bad ether, I really like the comic book style.
The characters of the game is not to bad. My favorite girl so far is probably Emma, but I do hope for more characters to come.
There's probably just one thing I can think of that I didn't like, that being all the time skips. It's way to many and they're way to long.
But overall I really enjoy this game. You've earned yourself a follow from me and I'm really looking forward to upcoming chapters.
I'm glad you enjoyed the game! And thanks for the feedback.
About the time skips. I wanted to make the story feel relatively grounded and realistic, even if there's still a lot of "porn logic" in game. That means that relationships take time to develop. But showing every single day of that time period would get boring really quickly in my opinion. So, to solve that problem, I had to either make the story happen in a much smaller time period, or make time jumps and let the relationships evolve a bit "off screen".
I chose to follow Alfred Hitchcock's quote "drama is life with the dull bits cut out" and just showed the important moments for the story and skipped the rest, while informing the players of how much time have passed since the last scene to keep everyone on the same page.
Perhaps this wasn't the most elegant solution. As the story progresses and all relationships are well developed, this sort of "trick" won't be necessary anymore. So, you can expect less time jumps in the future.
Appreciate that you explained why you did it, and after hearing why you did it I do think that you may have a point.
Keep up the great work
I finished chapter one now which already has a lot of content (~3.5 hours).
Despite what others might say, I really enjoyed the art. In the sea of Daz3D games one can play today, it is quite refreshing to see someone aiming for a unique and recognizable look.
Paired with the general visual presentation (with the occasional "comic panels" or very stylized scenes) I think the graphics work pretty well. Also there are quite a lot of short animation bits, that help make the characters feel alive.
But more important than that, the story and themes of the game are done pretty well. I really liked the whole psychology theme with some scenes that really made me connect to the protagonist (referring to the brilliant inner monologue at the end of the yoga session for example).
On top of that comes a lot of user interaction compared to other adult visual novels combined with a relatively complex point/skill system that has me intrigued.
Kudos also for the attention to detail, for example in the very elaborate chess matches.
The only critique I want to express is the pacing that is very slow at points. In a porn game I expect a certain amount of sexual scenes every now and then. This game however has some rather long passages of strictly non-sexual scenes where the game feels more like an all-ages drama rather than an R18 game. As a general direction for the game this is not a problem but a rather welcome change, but the pacing still needs to be varied enough to keep the players engaged.
To summarize my short review: Keep up the good work and keep trying out different stuff. Having some new approaches to the genre is always welcome. I'm looking forward to future updates of the game!
Thanks for the kind words and feedback.
Pacing is indeed one of the hardest things to get right. On one hand, I want the players to care about the characters so that when the sex scenes come they are more meaningful. On the other hand, this is a +18 game and players expect a certain dose of sex scenes and not just character development.
This first chapter had a lot of characters and themes to introduce and perhaps I misjudged the ratio of non-sexual/sexual scenes a bit. I believe this will improve as the game progresses and the characters become more well established. Then, there will be a higher number of sex scenes and kinks per chapter for the players to explore.
I have some brutally honest feedback this is meant to help not undermine you, i don't like the V.N. at all and here is why ! is love the use of high end CGI art work but then to add a mix of much lower end graphics with thick black lines even in the intro was the first point of o no please NO !!! and i think its because i work with graphics so must for books and merchandise and i know bring 2D and high end 3D is a art form that i very hard and i would say pick one or the other, i am sorry if this came across as hateful or negative but when i have got through close to 400 V.N.'s read in a year, things like trigger me so bad i just have to say something that will hopefully help long term.
I DON'T normally this but if you and to i am willing and give of my own time and talents to help to make this into a A++ V.N. just ask your not sure will it work or not, dose it look eye pleasing.
Thanks for the feedback! Your complains seem to be all about the art style.
The art style started as a consequence of having a shitty pc to render, not knowing how to draw and not having money to commission drawing to a proper artist. How to solve that problem? I used those shaders on a 3d software and now I can actually make renders on my potato laptop and make a cool game! I wouldn’t be able to make a game if I stick with the beautiful 3d cgi you like and are used to.
My choice was never between the tradition art styles and my art style. It was always between my art style and no game at all. It was a compromise. That being said, the style really grew on me and I really like it right now. However, I obviously understand if that's not to everyone's liking.
I’ve had feedback elsewhere from other players saying that they really liked the game and the artstyle. But others, like you, also said they didn't like the art style at all! I guess it is a matter of preferences, but I completely understand that this won’t be everybody’s cup of tea.
That’s why there are all these screeshots in the page: everyone can judge at a glance if they will enjoy the art style or if it’s better to move on to the next game.
I understand that some people love it and others not and i totally get it rendering on on a 1050 is nothing like on a 3080all i am saying wouldn't it be better to have a larger amount of people love it in 1 style than others and not so many say its OK but here is a idea why not make a pole survey as to what the readers think it better because at the end of the day they are the ones that support the development of your V.N.
and thank you for for taking it the way it was meant and also taking your time to respond back,
all that i can say is i wish you the best and do what you think is right.
If I made that poll, I probably would vote myself in a style envolving beautifully drawn 2d characters. Let's say that option would won. Then what? I can't afford an artist. So, should I ask people to support my future game in advance, without me having ever made any game before and expect that anyone would want to fund the project?
I don't think that's how things work. I have to prove myself first for anyone wanting to support the development of any of my games. That's why I'm destributing this game for free and let people judge if it is worthy of any support.
I'm doing the game I can with the resources I have. If it goes well and I can upgrade my equipment or hire an artist, then my next game might be even better! But, right now, with my current hardware, rendering 3d photorealistic pics would take 10x more time. That is simply not an option if I want to make updates every 2-3 months.
And besides all that, I really like the art style myself. It might have started as a compromise, but it sure grew on me. I'm already finding more people that also enjoy it, even though some others don't. Not all games need to have the same visuals.
Maybe in a not so distant future you might be able to play another of my games made in a style you enjoy. I hope so. Until there, I appreciate the feedback. If I ever have the chance to, I'll definitely explore other art styles, like you suggested, in future projects. Cheers.
if i am honest it looks like you have the skills to it work without hiring someone you can see it in the art work, and to answer the 1st question do it in a pole and if people like it like that then keep it the way it is if not change it just enough so people can see a change and keep them coming back for more, i tell you what would work and I've seen it with your art style is maybe keep people in a 3d high end and the background as a lower end or the other way around, and how knows I'm not writing it off just because i don't like it your already bookmarked so i can track the changes if they happen if not just keep doing what ever makes you happy and lest you express your self in your art, but the main thing i would say is be open to change