maybe, maybe not.. judging by the statistical example set by other devs, a pre-purchase on an incomplete game means the game will never be complete. it is a faulty business model. pre-purchase and/or subscription model means there is a financial incentive to never finish the game.
Hi I just paid for the game twice but it is not showing up in my owned games and I never got a email saying i purchased it but it did take my money can someone help
Please have a look in that thread. According to leafo (itch.io admin), there might be a temporary charge taken from you even when purchases are not completed. But the amount should be returned to you within the next day.
Like it's mentioned on that thread, you can also contact customer support for more informations.
wow, what a fantastic game, the way the relationship with Lea and Jen build up, amazing ! and i just played half the demo, great writing, probably the best i have seen
I have to say, this is one of my favorite R18+ games ever. It is incredibly well written, and the characters are both varied and believable. I especially like that unlike in other games, you can actually have a healthy friendship with the male cast going. It helps to improve immersion a lot.
Is there a list of the available fetishes that might not be in the skill tree? Like Impregnation/Pregnant sex, bondage, oral, etc. etc? If not, are there plans to add those sorts of kinks later on?
Hey Mr Lusty, just about to start v0.6.3 after reading your notes! Will provide you feedback. But one detail that has always bothered me (i love your VN and have praised it highly on F95) is the moment where the protagonist realises that his first meeting with Emma was secretly arranged by his friends. Sure, you can call that a conspiracy, but the MC isn't stupid, just depressed etc; He would realise what it was. So I think the two choices of how the MC reacts could be: (1) he accepts it (not angry) and he gets + both red (manly) and yellow (honest) points, but if he has a problem with discovering the truth, then he gets (2) + blue (emo points) and green (chaos) points reflecting his mental state (rather than anger). A rational person would see the "conspiracy" as his friends trying to help (sure Emma is interested) while any other interprestation should (imho) reflect his troubled mind. Kudos to you!
First of all, amazing game!!! Do you happen to have a walkthrough? I can't seem to get on the path where MC cheats with Kim and not the Male Dom route. Or did you remove that?
First of all, dude, congratulations. Amazing game. I started playing novels after Nothing Is Forever, you opened that path for me lol
I just downloaded the last build and I wonder which of the characters already have a playable path with "scenes" and kinks and so on, I mean I'm trying to get a romance with Olivia, I choose her for the initial crash but I still can't get any kinks or hints for her.
I forgot to backup my old saves so I'm playing the game all over again and even if I'm focusing on her, I still have problems getting anywhere.
EDIT: ok I may be an idiot, I just saw new images of the last version, I guess I'm gonna get something with Olivia but I just need to go on in the game, right?
i think Olivia is there to keep the game interesting, it's a slow burn, i like her too, she is my favorite now, get the most recent version... (Lea and Jen used to be my favorite, but i know them well enough now :)
I'm not a native speaker. The chapters are usually proofread/edited by a friend, but this takes a lot of time - we can't forget that, in number of words, this game is already bigger than the "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" and "The Return of the King" put together.
So, I thought it was better to release this chapter as is now, and edit it in the next months instead of delaying it even more. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good and all that. But it'll get proofread, sooner or later. The previous chapters have also been released more or less like this.
That being said, it's funny that you picked an example that it's correct. Prophylactic moves are a thing in chess. Every professional commentator talks about prophylactic moves all the time. It's the correct term used in the field.
So I just downloaded the new version and went to play and half my saves are gone. I tried opening the old version and they are gone there now too. Any idea how to get them back so I don't have to play through it all again.
Loved the new chapter, but at the end of my lea only playthrough the summary at the end was wrong and it said things happened that I didn't do. I'm kinda new here so i dunno where to report bugs n stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the bug report. You can tell me about them anywhere: here in the comments or in the discord server if you have a discord account.
The summary goal is about Emma, right? That will be fix in a patch coming in a couple of days. Or is there something else I'm not aware of?
Lots of kinks and fetishes in this game, and I'm not one that kinkshames, but the most most unhinged fetish this game has is chess, can't believe there's no CW for it, i'm literally crying and shaking rn!!!
This game is amazing and filled with endless potential already. I have some vested interest in every girl, but Deb and Emma definately scratch an itch.
How many chapters do you foresee this taking to finish?
I feel like I'm checking in daily for a chapter 6 release...
Yes, the listed price includes all future updates. You just pay once.
I just let patrons "beta-test" an update first to check for bugs, but once everything is fixed (it usually takes 2 days) the update goes live on itch and anyone that already bought the game has access to it.
I was very hesitant to try it at first - I read the summary and had the completely wrong idea of what direction the story would take, just based on the concept of being a therapist of sorts who had a history of 'inappropriate' conduct. (Perhaps a consequence of seeing too many games with unlikable or even downright evil protagonists.)
But you handle that concept (among other serious topics) with impressive skill and careful consideration. My expectations at the beginning were not high, but even if they were, I think I still would have been blown away.
The characters have real depth to them, and even the ones I'm not quite so fond of I still appreciate as being well-written and having their own voices. Their design is striking too; I know that the renders are stylized and not everyone likes it, but honestly I vastly prefer it to the same-old recycled-asset hyper-realistic uncanny-valley treatment. It's unique, something to set the game apart from others. Props also to the variety in personality and appearance.
And the music is awesome. I don't understand why so many people just use the same dozen boring songs when there's a world of music out there, so much of it available to use for free.
I hope there are plans to put it on Steam. I imagine it would be quite successful there.
Itch.io just sent me a "new version" notice on NIF, but the download says it's still version 0.5.1. I'm guessing this is a "bugfix" version, or something similar? Either that, or itch.io is pranking me. :-D Be well!
I don't see it in the screenshots, but in game characters have thick black lines around them that look terrible. I won't buy the paid for version based on this. When the MC is sitting down at the first yoga lesson, he looks like a Jehovah's Witness! Presumably just so you can cut to the artwork pics!
Is there any way to see, which paths arent finished yet? Its kinda frustrating following a path, to end in nowhere after the fifth act. Jen for example. Posted the pics, credits.
The game is still in early access and is released in chapters. So, no path is completed. Right now, the story stops at the end of chapter 5. It's the same for all paths.
The development of each chapter takes around 4 months. There will be more scenes once chapter 6 is released.
The design of the female characters' appearance is unique and more true to life than many other visual novels. Obviously all of the characters are designed to be very attractive, but if these women were real, they would each have something that makes them self conscious even though it shouldn't. Anyone who has dated someone for a while would understand even if its something as small as "I hate my cheekbones". it really helps make the characters feel more realistic.
On the subject of characters, before the end of even the first conversation with Emma, it was clear that this would be a game that has some of the best character writing in an AVN. Its clear that there has been a lot of effort given to making characters feel as real as possible. I'm not even past ch2 and i can say without hesitation that the writing is near the level of Dr Pinkcake or Caribdis (Being a DIK/Acting Lessons and Once in a lifetime/Eternum respectively)
Definitely try to buy it or support it to help support this level of effort and creativity shown by MrSilverLust if you can
After playing Eternum, Being a DIK, Once in a Lifetime, MIST I was looking for a similar game that would draw me in for the story and the sexuality would be a beautiful addition. I finally found it!
I played the demo (3 chapters of the game) and I'm really positively surprised. The game has depth and inner magic. You can really feel that the person creating it put all their heart into it.
The story is extremely engaging, the hero is not a simple and stupid character, he has thoughts and internal experiences.
All the characters appearing in the game are interestingly outlined, they are diverse and realistic - we gradually get to know them and they can arouse sympathy (except Kim!!!) :)
The music is great - especially in the intimate moments the songs rock and I found myself listening to them (and nodding my head in time) instead of playing.
In addition, after beating the game, it is possible to start the game in new game+ mode, where the points we gain are doubled by, which will give us access to a larger pool of behaviors and scenes.
As for the graphics and scenes, look at the screenshots - it's great!
In the conversation with Kim at the café in chapter three, you have to pick the option:
- You have nothing to worry about, just leave me out of it (cunning)
And do have a total amount of manly points superior than sensitive points.
Then, at the end of the scene, pick:
- What's in it for me? (cunning)
And then:
- Deal (cunning)
You will then be on Kim's manly path and be able to get the handjob scene in chapter 4 (and more in chapter 5). Check the profile menu to see in which path you are.
I was very hesitant at first to spend $15 on the game but im now glad I did. Worth every cent.
The graphics are great. Being able to make your own decisions and create different outcomes is awesome. Having little mini games and watching/participating in some of the in game scenarios (spoiler alert*) for example the chess games in chapter one, I think is incredible. Most other games would just skip to the end and be done with it, but you've incorporated ad much of the interactions as possible
Fantastic game. That's the first time I buy a VN, I usually just wait for them to be pirated and posted on F95 but this one really deserves all the praise and support it can get. Love the femdom routes so far.
Hi dev,you always makes polls about asking more dominant or submissive content adding right? And mostly get submissive asking votes and ask why? Because you made this mc a typical looser type i mean even if u showcase him as alpha his looser nerd type looks will make it look stupid and disappointed,why making a character this looser? He is type of guy we never wants to see a girl near to and this is supposed mc of an avn,you know even in NTR avn mc or bf/husband of female mc looks better than this guy,story is okay way too text,and exploring all kinks is understandable,but what's the deal with all of these whatever the fuck mc touche gets destroyed,i could see clearly out of 7,6 relationship are never going to workout and mc would possibly destroy every existing possible relationship with his shitty attitude,he needs backbone bit he is typical looser,can't expect him to become something good even with attributes or all time acting as a man he will remain same idiot.
Kudos also for the integration of real chess into an adult game. Maybe chess itself has become a fetish after Queen's Gambit. ;-) The chess games are great, probably too good to have been invented by the game author. (Also, I recognized some of the combination motifs, if not the full games, but I don't remember the original players and events.) Therefore I even watched the credits until the end, but they were not mentioned. I know there's no legal requirement because chess games aren't copyrightable in most legislations; but imho, the games quoted in NIF are true works of creativity and art, so it would only be fair to reference their authors (=original players). Can you do that in the next version, please, or in your answer here? @mrsilverlust
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Great game, I love it. It's one of my favourites... so I can't wait to see what happens next. When will it be available here?
Each update is released at the same time on Itch, Steam and Patreon. The next update is still a few months away.
a few corrections to chapter 7
MC to Monika
"So, Have you starting dating again? Or even just looking?"
could be
"So, have you started dating again, or are you just looking?"
(Starting MUST be "Started" the rest is optional)
later...
Olivia says
"But i was young and stupid and enjoyed the attention so i kept "teased" him
should be "Teasing him"
maybe pass the whole text to chat gpt to ask for obvious errors ?
So....I'm going to be the guy to point out cuckquean should be cuckqueen on the dominant skills area....
Nope, cuckquean is the proper spelling.
Will there be impreg?
This is a good question, I would also like to know lol.
No impreg planned.
one day it will be complete 🤧
maybe, maybe not..
judging by the statistical example set by other devs, a pre-purchase on an incomplete game means the game will never be complete. it is a faulty business model. pre-purchase and/or subscription model means there is a financial incentive to never finish the game.
can i get a steamkey? i purchased this here
any chance that those of us who bought the game on here prior to the steam release will be given steam keys?
Hi I just paid for the game twice but it is not showing up in my owned games and I never got a email saying i purchased it but it did take my money can someone help
Sorry to hear about that.
I didn't receive any notification or money from your purchase(s), so I don't think the purchase( was completed.
What you're experiencing sounds very similar to what was described in this thread:
https://itch.io/t/2550378/itchio-charged-me-but-didnt-send-game
Please have a look in that thread. According to leafo (itch.io admin), there might be a temporary charge taken from you even when purchases are not completed. But the amount should be returned to you within the next day.
Like it's mentioned on that thread, you can also contact customer support for more informations.
I hope everything gets fixed soon!
Where's chapter 1 download?
wow, what a fantastic game, the way the relationship with Lea and Jen build up, amazing ! and i just played half the demo, great writing, probably the best i have seen
I have to say, this is one of my favorite R18+ games ever. It is incredibly well written, and the characters are both varied and believable. I especially like that unlike in other games, you can actually have a healthy friendship with the male cast going. It helps to improve immersion a lot.
can i have steam key i bought this
Is there a list of the available fetishes that might not be in the skill tree? Like Impregnation/Pregnant sex, bondage, oral, etc. etc? If not, are there plans to add those sorts of kinks later on?
Hey Mr Lusty, just about to start v0.6.3 after reading your notes! Will provide you feedback. But one detail that has always bothered me (i love your VN and have praised it highly on F95) is the moment where the protagonist realises that his first meeting with Emma was secretly arranged by his friends. Sure, you can call that a conspiracy, but the MC isn't stupid, just depressed etc; He would realise what it was. So I think the two choices of how the MC reacts could be: (1) he accepts it (not angry) and he gets + both red (manly) and yellow (honest) points, but if he has a problem with discovering the truth, then he gets (2) + blue (emo points) and green (chaos) points reflecting his mental state (rather than anger). A rational person would see the "conspiracy" as his friends trying to help (sure Emma is interested) while any other interprestation should (imho) reflect his troubled mind. Kudos to you!
Pushed Kim (after meet in cafe) away with yellow 124 / blue 141 /green 22 / red 11... does this make sense?
First of all, amazing game!!! Do you happen to have a walkthrough? I can't seem to get on the path where MC cheats with Kim and not the Male Dom route. Or did you remove that?
First of all, dude, congratulations. Amazing game. I started playing novels after Nothing Is Forever, you opened that path for me lol
I just downloaded the last build and I wonder which of the characters already have a playable path with "scenes" and kinks and so on, I mean I'm trying to get a romance with Olivia, I choose her for the initial crash but I still can't get any kinks or hints for her.
I forgot to backup my old saves so I'm playing the game all over again and even if I'm focusing on her, I still have problems getting anywhere.
EDIT: ok I may be an idiot, I just saw new images of the last version, I guess I'm gonna get something with Olivia but I just need to go on in the game, right?
Thanks
i think Olivia is there to keep the game interesting, it's a slow burn, i like her too, she is my favorite now, get the most recent version... (Lea and Jen used to be my favorite, but i know them well enough now :)
I'm not a native speaker. The chapters are usually proofread/edited by a friend, but this takes a lot of time - we can't forget that, in number of words, this game is already bigger than the "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" and "The Return of the King" put together.
So, I thought it was better to release this chapter as is now, and edit it in the next months instead of delaying it even more. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good and all that. But it'll get proofread, sooner or later. The previous chapters have also been released more or less like this.
That being said, it's funny that you picked an example that it's correct. Prophylactic moves are a thing in chess. Every professional commentator talks about prophylactic moves all the time. It's the correct term used in the field.
So I just downloaded the new version and went to play and half my saves are gone. I tried opening the old version and they are gone there now too. Any idea how to get them back so I don't have to play through it all again.
Thanks.
Enjoy your work.
Loved the new chapter, but at the end of my lea only playthrough the summary at the end was wrong and it said things happened that I didn't do. I'm kinda new here so i dunno where to report bugs n stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the bug report. You can tell me about them anywhere: here in the comments or in the discord server if you have a discord account.
The summary goal is about Emma, right? That will be fix in a patch coming in a couple of days. Or is there something else I'm not aware of?
Thanks for the reply, Yup that's the one, just about Emma.
Lots of kinks and fetishes in this game, and I'm not one that kinkshames, but the most most unhinged fetish this game has is chess, can't believe there's no CW for it, i'm literally crying and shaking rn!!!
This is such a well written game. Keep up the good work, Mr. Silver Lust.
This game is amazing and filled with endless potential already. I have some vested interest in every girl, but Deb and Emma definately scratch an itch.
How many chapters do you foresee this taking to finish?
I feel like I'm checking in daily for a chapter 6 release...
If i bought it once will i get all future updates?
Yes, the listed price includes all future updates. You just pay once.
I just let patrons "beta-test" an update first to check for bugs, but once everything is fixed (it usually takes 2 days) the update goes live on itch and anyone that already bought the game has access to it.
The next update will be released next month!
ok, thanks for the reply
What a remarkable game.
I was very hesitant to try it at first - I read the summary and had the completely wrong idea of what direction the story would take, just based on the concept of being a therapist of sorts who had a history of 'inappropriate' conduct. (Perhaps a consequence of seeing too many games with unlikable or even downright evil protagonists.)
But you handle that concept (among other serious topics) with impressive skill and careful consideration. My expectations at the beginning were not high, but even if they were, I think I still would have been blown away.
The characters have real depth to them, and even the ones I'm not quite so fond of I still appreciate as being well-written and having their own voices. Their design is striking too; I know that the renders are stylized and not everyone likes it, but honestly I vastly prefer it to the same-old recycled-asset hyper-realistic uncanny-valley treatment. It's unique, something to set the game apart from others. Props also to the variety in personality and appearance.
And the music is awesome. I don't understand why so many people just use the same dozen boring songs when there's a world of music out there, so much of it available to use for free.
I hope there are plans to put it on Steam. I imagine it would be quite successful there.
Funny you ask about steam because the page was set online just now :D
Already wish-listed it! I know that helps in the metrics and you deserve a successful launch.
Ever since the jumpscare, i was always on edge whenever a purple text appear. How many jumpscares are in this game?
Just that one, sorry about that :p
i'm so excited for chapter 6 ^.^
So I have to know before I pull the trigger on this one... Sissification? Is it in the game and to what extent? I am asking because I am hopeful.
Sorry, there won't be any sissification in the game.
TY for your reply.
Itch.io just sent me a "new version" notice on NIF, but the download says it's still version 0.5.1. I'm guessing this is a "bugfix" version, or something similar? Either that, or itch.io is pranking me. :-D Be well!
I don't see it in the screenshots, but in game characters have thick black lines around them that look terrible. I won't buy the paid for version based on this. When the MC is sitting down at the first yoga lesson, he looks like a Jehovah's Witness! Presumably just so you can cut to the artwork pics!
lmfao jehovahs witness
Have you seen a Witness with those long curly hair tails. either side of the face? If not, then lmfao at you.
Is there any way to see, which paths arent finished yet? Its kinda frustrating following a path, to end in nowhere after the fifth act. Jen for example. Posted the pics, credits.
The game is still in early access and is released in chapters. So, no path is completed. Right now, the story stops at the end of chapter 5. It's the same for all paths.
The development of each chapter takes around 4 months. There will be more scenes once chapter 6 is released.
Sorry for my late reply. Thanks for your answer.
Im stoked to see where this game goes.
Hi there! Good game, good story! Nice work, guys/gals.
The design of the female characters' appearance is unique and more true to life than many other visual novels. Obviously all of the characters are designed to be very attractive, but if these women were real, they would each have something that makes them self conscious even though it shouldn't. Anyone who has dated someone for a while would understand even if its something as small as "I hate my cheekbones". it really helps make the characters feel more realistic.
On the subject of characters, before the end of even the first conversation with Emma, it was clear that this would be a game that has some of the best character writing in an AVN. Its clear that there has been a lot of effort given to making characters feel as real as possible. I'm not even past ch2 and i can say without hesitation that the writing is near the level of Dr Pinkcake or Caribdis (Being a DIK/Acting Lessons and Once in a lifetime/Eternum respectively)
Definitely try to buy it or support it to help support this level of effort and creativity shown by MrSilverLust if you can
After playing Eternum, Being a DIK, Once in a Lifetime, MIST I was looking for a similar game that would draw me in for the story and the sexuality would be a beautiful addition. I finally found it!
I played the demo (3 chapters of the game) and I'm really positively surprised. The game has depth and inner magic. You can really feel that the person creating it put all their heart into it.
The story is extremely engaging, the hero is not a simple and stupid character, he has thoughts and internal experiences.
All the characters appearing in the game are interestingly outlined, they are diverse and realistic - we gradually get to know them and they can arouse sympathy (except Kim!!!) :)
The music is great - especially in the intimate moments the songs rock and I found myself listening to them (and nodding my head in time) instead of playing.
In addition, after beating the game, it is possible to start the game in new game+ mode, where the points we gain are doubled by, which will give us access to a larger pool of behaviors and scenes.
As for the graphics and scenes, look at the screenshots - it's great!
10/10
Can someone plz tell me how can i get kim chapter 4 handjob scene??i try multiple time but failed.it will mean a lot ❤️❤️❤️
You need to be on Kim's manly path. For that:
In the conversation with Kim at the café in chapter three, you have to pick the option:
- You have nothing to worry about, just leave me out of it (cunning)
And do have a total amount of manly points superior than sensitive points.
Then, at the end of the scene, pick:
- What's in it for me? (cunning)
And then:
- Deal (cunning)
You will then be on Kim's manly path and be able to get the handjob scene in chapter 4 (and more in chapter 5). Check the profile menu to see in which path you are.
I hope that's clear enough.
thank you so much❤️❤️❤️❤️. I really really love ur game.It's very unique AVN i have ever played. Can't wait for the next update.
If I buy this now, will I always have access to each new updated version? Don't want to continue to pay for the next big updates.
Yes, you just pay one time.
Absolutely love this game.
I just started chapter 2 and am so into it.
I was very hesitant at first to spend $15 on the game but im now glad I did. Worth every cent.
The graphics are great. Being able to make your own decisions and create different outcomes is awesome. Having little mini games and watching/participating in some of the in game scenarios (spoiler alert*) for example the chess games in chapter one, I think is incredible. Most other games would just skip to the end and be done with it, but you've incorporated ad much of the interactions as possible
Great job.
Thanks.
Fantastic game. That's the first time I buy a VN, I usually just wait for them to be pirated and posted on F95 but this one really deserves all the praise and support it can get. Love the femdom routes so far.
Fantastic game, I really like the depth of the characters and the realism of the various topics brought up during the story. Applauds!
Hi dev,you always makes polls about asking more dominant or submissive content adding right? And mostly get submissive asking votes and ask why? Because you made this mc a typical looser type i mean even if u showcase him as alpha his looser nerd type looks will make it look stupid and disappointed,why making a character this looser? He is type of guy we never wants to see a girl near to and this is supposed mc of an avn,you know even in NTR avn mc or bf/husband of female mc looks better than this guy,story is okay way too text,and exploring all kinks is understandable,but what's the deal with all of these whatever the fuck mc touche gets destroyed,i could see clearly out of 7,6 relationship are never going to workout and mc would possibly destroy every existing possible relationship with his shitty attitude,he needs backbone bit he is typical looser,can't expect him to become something good even with attributes or all time acting as a man he will remain same idiot.
Kudos also for the integration of real chess into an adult game. Maybe chess itself has become a fetish after Queen's Gambit. ;-) The chess games are great, probably too good to have been invented by the game author. (Also, I recognized some of the combination motifs, if not the full games, but I don't remember the original players and events.) Therefore I even watched the credits until the end, but they were not mentioned. I know there's no legal requirement because chess games aren't copyrightable in most legislations; but imho, the games quoted in NIF are true works of creativity and art, so it would only be fair to reference their authors (=original players). Can you do that in the next version, please, or in your answer here? @mrsilverlust
Good point, for whatever reason I didn’t think about including them in the credits, but I agree that it’d be nice to do it in future updates.
In the meantime, I did write an open post about all the chess games featured so far in "Nothing is Forever", if you want to have a look.
Perfect, thank you! That's what I was looking for.